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Work Smart

By goldman on Thursday, February 22, 2007

MSNBC reports on how Americans are increasingly imposing 70+ hour work weeks on themselves to stay competitive at the workplace. This is happening cross-industry which matches my anecdotal experience. I have friends in finance, law and technology for whom working ridiculous hours is considered part of the accepted culture.

This is dumb. There's no way anyone in an information processing job can be productive for that many hours a week for any significant stretch of time. Places that foster this type of behavior are actively encouraging burnout, especially from their most junior employees. After all, it's those with the least outside experience who will be most eagerly try to sync up with such a company culture.

Yes, there will always be crunch time. And when you find yourself in that zone of getting things done, it's worth riding the wave regardless of the hour. But it's not sustainable for weeks at a time. And in the long run, companies that don't make time-off a guilt-free part of the culture will cripple themselves.

All of which is to say that here at Obvious we do serious business and also offer 27 paid days off. Also we're hiring.

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104 Comments:

Steve Jenson: Does that include holidays, working-type dude?

2/22/2007 9:32 PM

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2/23/2007 12:37 PM

Addicted to your Blog: Wooiee! That's a lot of work hours. Can indeed be possible, if it were to be my own company, and/or I resided a stone-throw distance from my place of work

3/09/2007 4:34 PM

Guillermo Ravagni: I congratulate you by your blog.

I am from Argentina.

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3/10/2007 1:22 PM

Manusmriti: It's the same disease prevalent in major Asian countries also. Nice to know we've friends in the U.S. also doing the same life.

3/11/2007 12:54 AM

philippe: hi,
noticed this in all countries..
one question..when we fuel on sundays .. go shopping late. etc etc ...do we think these people...are working too hard?

3/11/2007 5:04 AM

EmailHosting.com: I agree with the burnout rule. However, I think that if you are taking enough breaks, then you can survive the burnout.

Give employees the flexibility of when to come in and work anytime of the day and you will have more productive employees, providing that you must have a benchmark to measure results.

3/11/2007 8:54 AM

Gena: You can't do that on a regular basis and be productive. The employee or the company is constantly cleaning up mistakes.

You shouldn't have to survive it. A job shouldn't damn near kill you in order to support yourself or your family.

I hope these types of employers go the way of the dinosaur and quick.

3/11/2007 11:52 AM

Steve P: I definitely agree with and can relate to the "Work Smart" article. If anything, the problem is understated. I am always suspicious of those who claim to work 80 hours - do the math! That would be 12 hours a day during the week, plus 10 hours on Saturday and Sunday. 60 hours is more likely, but that doesn't make it any better.

What would happen if you worked less? Would you get fired? Outsourced? Live in a cardboard box. Or just not promoted (the path to another 10 hours a week). Easy to say - tougher to do.

If you can find it, read the "Peter Principle".

3/11/2007 3:36 PM

Joe: Is this why all these people get hooked and hyper on those java-creamed, uppity $5.00 drinks at Starbucks?

It'll catch up to them if they don't love their job. What good is a $100,000/year job (with no life) if you have medical bills just as high to cure your neurotic behaviors?

I'm only half-kidding with this post.

3/11/2007 7:23 PM

Arnie: There's a difference between "working out of fear" and "working because you love what you do" - there are plenty of people that put in the hours because that's what they love - they get lost in it - what athletes call "the zone".

Now on the other hand, if you're putting in hours because you "fear" losing your job. I would imagine (because I'm not a productivity expert) that there are really less hours worked productively than someone that shows up, puts in their 8-hours, and goes home.

3/12/2007 7:33 AM

Rupesh: work smart....... obviously!!

3/12/2007 7:37 AM

Offbrand: It kinda dives me nuts the way people try to find happiness in money and stuff. As Dupree says in You Me and Dupree "I went to Argentina once and everyone seemed to be just sitting around. It was great" Life should be enjoyed not ran through and forgotten

3/13/2007 12:19 AM

unholy_saintt: Its all about Prioritising things in our life,deciding which are the most important things in your life and working towards achieving them. Afterall you live only once

3/13/2007 1:17 PM

Renegade: I totally agree. When you burnout an employee, you have to invest time and money to train a replacement. This is not smart business! Ideally, you want to "Work Smart" and reward your employees, making them like their job and stick with you for a while.

Check out Renegade's BS

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3/15/2007 1:35 PM

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3/17/2007 3:32 AM

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Kaj: "Work Smart" - or just more of the same narcissism that made the ME generation famous for whining about having to work long and hard to get ahead?

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3/25/2007 6:56 PM

angela padrone: Interesting...
Would you ever imagine that Italians (the lazy Italians...!)work really as much? According to statistics from the Us Department of Labour -2005 the average annual hours worked per employed person in the States is 1804 (it was 1849 in '95) and in Italy is 1791 (it was even higher: 1876 in '95). It would be nice to start an international discussion about temporary or flexible work (a big issue in Italy at the moment).
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3/29/2007 4:25 PM

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4/07/2007 1:39 PM

safer cooler greener: Agreed! Absolutely unproductive to work 70 hours per week....and not to judge, those who do work 70+ probably don't love their job! By the way if you need a place to plug in while you're in NYC - feel free to come in to our Studio in Brooklyn.
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4/07/2007 1:41 PM

Kathryn: Right on. In some larger companie and some unfortunate smaller ones, much of that 70 hours is Face Time. Some of these folks are putting on a good show to management. Whenever I see this in companies I work with or at I know that they have some seriously dysfunctional dynamics at play and as a result are bad places to work. Obviously I am not referring to 70 hours put in before a launch or other legitimate crunch times.

At the best companies employees take an entrepreneurial approach and work smart. To work smarter it is absolutely necessary to have a life outside of work which allows them down time to let their brains perculate and be more creative at work. Ok - so I did do my dissertation on some of this.

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4/13/2007 7:14 AM

vramayrat: I feel that more companies should use the "ROWE" approach (see BestBuy writeup in Business2.0); ROWE stands for "results only work environment".

I agree with your post totally! I am a solopreneur in Fresno, CA... If I decide to join a company, it might not be in this City as there are not many "Obvious"-type of mentality here... If I was in SF, I will be knocking on your door to work WITH you guys...

4/22/2007 12:46 PM

David: This post has been removed by the author.

4/30/2007 8:53 PM

David: Ummm... 27 days off sounds super, but it's not all that unusual. I've been places with 3 weeks (15 days), 10 holidays and 2 personal days, == 27. The place I am now is "only" 15 + 9 = 24, but they are so relaxed about other time off that it scarcely matters.

So, this is pretty standard startup-level days off. Why are you making such a big deal of it? If a US company were to reach European levels -- 4 weeks off plus lotsa holidays -- lemme know.

4/30/2007 8:55 PM

Dave: Sounds like a lot of poo to me. Very few people work 80 hours a week. The kind of person who might is also the kind of person who in many cases will exaggerate the amount of hours they work when asked that very question. Furthermore, many of these people are probably considering themselves working as they yap on the phone with a coworker while they drive, "check" email while they watch TV at night, and accomplish their tasks while somehow surfing the web at the same time.

I recently figured out that while it is very easy for me to spend 40-45 hours a week in the office, I can get the actual work done in 25 or so. I think if more people were simply focused and efficient in the workplace, they'd realize they didn't need to "work" so hard.

7/23/2007 6:33 PM

Spring Luvr: I worked at Intel (in the R&D labs) for 10 years and 50 hours per week was considered the starting piont - a minimum. Everyone did it. Sometimes you'd come in the lab in the morning and someone would be wearing the same shirt as they did yesterday, indicating they never left last night!

I remember one month I only had one day off. They eventually stopped allowing that to happen, and insisted we did not work 7 consecutive days anymore. That was so thoughtful.

I'd have to say I started to lose productivity at about the 11 to 12 hour mark in any given day.

I'm now on staff with the government and work an alternate scheule that is basically 9 hours a day with every othe Monday off (thats two 3-day-weekends a month!) My whole life is better.

4/29/2008 8:48 AM

Spring Luvr: For those of you that think people might not really "work" that many hours, at Intel they surely did. I saw it, I did it. Engineering problems do not fix themselves and there was a lot of money at stake, so people really were in the lab doing experiments, analyzing results and deciding on the next steps for long, long hours.

And another thing, everyone I worked with really liked their jobs. We all enjoyed the work very much so that made it easier to work late every day, and frequent weekends. I miss it, but am glad I made the move to the government. It was the right move at the right time, economically.

Maybe Intel is a special case, I don't know...but if you doubt it I suggest you go there and apply and see for yourself. It's the real deal, brother.

4/29/2008 8:55 AM

Barbara Ruth Saunders: Two comments:

I believe that those passionate people who work 7 days a week in their own businesses actually do have more breaks. First, the sheer variety of activities provides the brain/body with a sort of rest. Second, a lot of the activity that gets counted as work in that context IS actually rest.

I worked as a personal trainer in SF during the dot-com craze. I have a very hard time believing that people so tired that their balance was affected were successfully completing challenging mental/intellectual work. It's not possible.

5/12/2008 12:35 PM

J Miller | Remembering.com: typo?
who will be most eagerly try to sync up with such a company culture. Feb 07. Now do I get a tshirt?

6/13/2008 4:18 PM

Barry: Workaholism as standard operating procedure seems silly.

The cultural model of sas is very good: employees ought to work effectively only 8 - 5 and then go home without shame, have a life and a family.

Google is an emulation but misses the mark with an insular microcosm of alluring convenience. They're only missing on-site corporate housing and their own religion.

Dogbert says Hey... that's an idea! Let's make people code in exchange for gruel and absolution of their sins. No need to pay them either. Oh, and I get 30 wives too.

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